Clearance sale Fluke 9010 pods

[Art M - Artfromny]

6502 $150
Z80 $175
6800 $65
8048 $50
6809 $260

All pods used, intact, good connectors, guaranteed to pass selftest on
arrival
Check my eBay feedback at http://tinyurl.com/455d7

Add $10 for shipping and handling for one pod, $17 for 2, $20 for 3, free
shipping on 4 or more. Very limited quantities available on 6809; limited
quantities on 6502 and Z80; plenty of 8048 and 6800.

[David Harmon]

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:52:19 GMT in sci.electronics.design, "Art M -

Post by Art M - Artfromny
All pods used, intact, good connectors, guaranteed to pass selftest on

None of the newsgroups in the sci.electronics.* hierarchy are
intended for buying and selling. An obvious giveaway is that none
of them have "forsale" or "marketplace" in their name.

See Mark Zenier's guide to the hierarchy, at
ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/m/mzenier/seguide9706.txt

When sci.electronics was split back in '95, an associated newsgroup
was created for buying and selling:
misc.industry.electronics.marketplace

http://pages.ebay.com/help/welcome/usenet-policy.html
eBay users may not post on Usenet groups (Internet newsgroups) to
advertise eBay or an eBay listing that is inappropriate or violates
the Usenet board policy. If Usenet abuse is reported to eBay, we may
among other remedies remove the listing, issue a warning, or suspend
the user's eBay account.

[Art M - Artfromny]

Good thing that post does not advertise any eBay listings on your group
isn't it? I dont believe that the eBay TOS prohibits a link to a user's
feedback to act as an introduction to perhaps sceptical newsgroup readers.
Thanks for the update on the history of the groups. However, since in the
past I have completed more than a few sales on the sci.electronics.* groups,
it would appear that at least some of your readers appreciate the occasional
for sale post; further, I doubt that any of them appointed you the enforcer
of the newsgroup charter, which is at best a guide to postings rather than
canon law.

When I read your reply to my post, for a minute I was reminded of John
Fields, Professional Circuit Designer
--
Art

Post by David Harmon
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:52:19 GMT in sci.electronics.design, "Art M -

Post by Art M - Artfromny
All pods used, intact, good connectors, guaranteed to pass selftest on

None of the newsgroups in the sci.electronics.* hierarchy are
intended for buying and selling. An obvious giveaway is that none
of them have "forsale" or "marketplace" in their name.
See Mark Zenier's guide to the hierarchy, at
ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/m/mzenier/seguide9706.txt
When sci.electronics was split back in '95, an associated newsgroup
misc.industry.electronics.marketplace
http://pages.ebay.com/help/welcome/usenet-policy.html
eBay users may not post on Usenet groups (Internet newsgroups) to
advertise eBay or an eBay listing that is inappropriate or violates
the Usenet board policy. If Usenet abuse is reported to eBay, we may
among other remedies remove the listing, issue a warning, or suspend
the user's eBay account.

[John Fields]

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:41:35 GMT, "Art M - Artfromny"

Post by Art M - Artfromny
Good thing that post does not advertise any eBay listings on your group
isn't it? I dont believe that the eBay TOS prohibits a link to a user's
feedback to act as an introduction to perhaps sceptical newsgroup readers.
Thanks for the update on the history of the groups. However, since in the
past I have completed more than a few sales on the sci.electronics.* groups,
it would appear that at least some of your readers appreciate the occasional
for sale post; further, I doubt that any of them appointed you the enforcer
of the newsgroup charter, which is at best a guide to postings rather than
canon law.
When I read your reply to my post, for a minute I was reminded of John
Fields, Professional Circuit Designer

---
Ah, yes... all of us who don't care for SPAM want you to stop
SPAMming USENET, and some of us will tell you so in no uncertain
terms.

[Art M - Artfromny]

Sorry John, I cant agree with you on this one - if I were advertising
pinball flyers on sci.electronics.design, or perhaps condom machines on
sci.electronics.equipment, you would have a more than valid point.
Since the Fluke 9010 is directly relevant to the interests of anyone reading
any of the newsgroups I chose, the posts are far from spam.
--
Art

Post by John Fields
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:41:35 GMT, "Art M - Artfromny"

Post by Art M - Artfromny
Good thing that post does not advertise any eBay listings on your group
isn't it? I dont believe that the eBay TOS prohibits a link to a user's
feedback to act as an introduction to perhaps sceptical newsgroup readers.
Thanks for the update on the history of the groups. However, since in the
past I have completed more than a few sales on the sci.electronics.* groups,
it would appear that at least some of your readers appreciate the occasional
for sale post; further, I doubt that any of them appointed you the enforcer
of the newsgroup charter, which is at best a guide to postings rather than
canon law.
When I read your reply to my post, for a minute I was reminded of John
Fields, Professional Circuit Designer

---
Ah, yes... all of us who don't care for SPAM want you to stop
SPAMming USENET, and some of us will tell you so in no uncertain
terms.
--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

[John Fields]

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:36:31 GMT, "Art M - Artfromny"

Post by Art M - Artfromny
Sorry John, I cant agree with you on this one - if I were advertising
pinball flyers on sci.electronics.design, or perhaps condom machines on
sci.electronics.equipment, you would have a more than valid point.
Since the Fluke 9010 is directly relevant to the interests of anyone reading
any of the newsgroups I chose, the posts are far from spam.

---
I read several of the newsgroups you posted to, and the Fluke 9010
isn't relevant to any of _my_ interests, so perhaps your target
audience isn't quite as broad as you think it is.

But, more to the point, the charters of the sci.electronics.*
newsgroups specifically state that they aren't intended to be used
as kiosks.

Of course, since there's no legal way to stop you from posting what
you want to you can violate the spirit of the groups and use them to
try to find happy homes for your widgets, but the fact remains that
the only time you show up is when you want to sell something.

You don't participate in any discussions, you don't present any
technical issues, and you don't ever show up unless you've got some
stuff you want to get rid of.

Not SPAM? I don't think so.

[arcadeguy]

Sometimes you can't take the internet to serious.
/me shruggs

- Of course, since there's no legal way to stop you from posting what
you want to you can violate the spirit of the groups and use them to
try to find happy homes for your widgets, but the fact remains that
the only time you show up is when you want to sell something.

[Art M - Artfromny]

Yep thats me - Professional Spirit Violator

[Simon Scott]

Post by Art M - Artfromny
Yep thats me - Professional Spirit Violator

Personally I would have said 'antisocial idiot', but thats just me.

It is not your *right* to post offtopic junk to irrelevant newsgroups, no
matter how you look at it. Ofcourse youre free to, considering they have no
way to enforce it, but a lot of people rely on something called
'etiquette'...

Its akin to someone saying 'I posted to every newsgroup because people
really do want to become dotcom millionaires for $5.99cents!'.

[Art M - Artfromny]

--
Art

Post by John Fields
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:36:31 GMT, "Art M - Artfromny"
---
I read several of the newsgroups you posted to, and the Fluke 9010
isn't relevant to any of _my_ interests, so perhaps your target
audience isn't quite as broad as you think it is.

Well since I inadvertently used the phrase 'anyone reading' I have to give
you the point here. Nevertheless if you werent trying to prove a point, you
would have to agree that CPU emulators and testers are very relevant to the
intersts of MANY of those on these groups.

Post by John Fields
But, more to the point, the charters of the sci.electronics.*
newsgroups specifically state that they aren't intended to be used
as kiosks.
Of course, since there's no legal way to stop you from posting what
you want to you can violate the spirit of the groups

John - be honest here - no real disrespect (well, maybe a bit) intended - do
you not have better things to do with your time than seek out those who
allegedly violate an intangible and reprimand them? From your more than
ample self-trumpeting, your mind is a veritable cornucopia of useful and
profitable circuits; should you not be looking to cultivate that very
fertile field for the good of mankind, or at least to make a living?

and use them to

Post by John Fields
try to find happy homes for your widgets, but the fact remains that
the only time you show up is when you want to sell something.

That is because I dont have any need to pick the brains of those on the
groups (not that I am learned in their fields, simply that I dont practice
in them; absolutely no disrespect intended to the very many on those groups
with skills and education that no doubt would put mine to shame).
I show up to sell because there are people there who buy; even the most
erudite of circuit designers needs a pair of dikes now and then.

Post by John Fields
You don't participate in any discussions, you don't present any
technical issues, and you don't ever show up unless you've got some
stuff you want to get rid of.
Not SPAM? I don't think so.

Well John thats whats great about America - we can all have and express our
opinions freely, as wrong as I think yours is.

Post by John Fields
--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

[John Fields]

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:43:59 GMT, "Art M - Artfromny"

Post by John Fields
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:36:31 GMT, "Art M - Artfromny"
---
I read several of the newsgroups you posted to, and the Fluke 9010
isn't relevant to any of _my_ interests, so perhaps your target
audience isn't quite as broad as you think it is.
---

Well since I inadvertently used the phrase 'anyone reading' I have
to give
you the point here. Nevertheless if you werent trying to prove a
point, you
would have to agree that CPU emulators and testers are very relevant
to the
intersts of MANY of those on these groups.

---
Perhaps to the denizens of the gaming groups, but to the other
groups to which you posted, I'd guess not. Moreover, I don't think
anyone designs with 6502's or 6800's or any of the target processors
your widgets support, any more, so your market seems to be limited
to those folks repairing video games and supporting older
microcontrollers.
---

Post by John Fields
But, more to the point, the charters of the sci.electronics.*
newsgroups specifically state that they aren't intended to be used
as kiosks.
Of course, since there's no legal way to stop you from posting what
you want to you can violate the spirit of the groups

John - be honest here - no real disrespect (well, maybe a bit)
intended - do
you not have better things to do with your time than seek out those
who
allegedly violate an intangible and reprimand them? From your more
than
ample self-trumpeting, your mind is a veritable cornucopia of useful
and
profitable circuits; should you not be looking to cultivate that
very
fertile field for the good of mankind, or at least to make a living?

---
Lurk around sci.electronics.* and alt.binaries.schematics.electronic
for a while and you might find that I do pro bono work which, I
hope, is helping mankind.

Making a living I'm not so concerned with, since my needs are
relatively simple and there's enough money coming in to take care of
them.
---

Post by John Fields
and use them to
try to find happy homes for your widgets, but the fact remains that
the only time you show up is when you want to sell something.

That is because I dont have any need to pick the brains of those on
the
groups (not that I am learned in their fields, simply that I dont
practice
in them; absolutely no disrespect intended to the very many on those
groups
with skills and education that no doubt would put mine to shame).
I show up to sell because there are people there who buy; even the
most
erudite of circuit designers needs a pair of dikes now and then.

---
If only to watch... But, nicely put.
---

Post by John Fields
You don't participate in any discussions, you don't present any
technical issues, and you don't ever show up unless you've got some
stuff you want to get rid of.
Not SPAM? I don't think so.

Well John thats whats great about America - we can all have and
express our
opinions freely, as wrong as I think yours is.

---
Well, of course you have to say that, and wave the flag a little to
make it all seem real, as seen from your side.

If you didn't, you'd have to admit that you're placing ads where ads
aren't welcome, and concede defeat. No?

[Steve Muccione]

Post by Art M - Artfromny
6502 $150
Z80 $175
6800 $65
8048 $50
6809 $260
All pods used, intact, good connectors, guaranteed to pass selftest on
arrival
Check my eBay feedback at http://tinyurl.com/455d7
Add $10 for shipping and handling for one pod, $17 for 2, $20 for 3, free
shipping on 4 or more. Very limited quantities available on 6809; limited
quantities on 6502 and Z80; plenty of 8048 and 6800.
--
Art

of course, the best part of this is that Art's add has gotten far more
exposure then it ever would have thanks to you...

Post by Art M - Artfromny
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:43:59 GMT, "Art M - Artfromny"

Post by John Fields
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:36:31 GMT, "Art M - Artfromny"
---
I read several of the newsgroups you posted to, and the Fluke 9010
isn't relevant to any of _my_ interests, so perhaps your target
audience isn't quite as broad as you think it is.
---

Well since I inadvertently used the phrase 'anyone reading' I have to give
you the point here. Nevertheless if you werent trying to prove a point, you
would have to agree that CPU emulators and testers are very relevant to the
intersts of MANY of those on these groups.
---
Perhaps to the denizens of the gaming groups, but to the other
groups to which you posted, I'd guess not. Moreover, I don't think
anyone designs with 6502's or 6800's or any of the target processors
your widgets support, any more, so your market seems to be limited
to those folks repairing video games and supporting older
microcontrollers.
---

Post by John Fields
But, more to the point, the charters of the sci.electronics.*
newsgroups specifically state that they aren't intended to be used
as kiosks.
Of course, since there's no legal way to stop you from posting what
you want to you can violate the spirit of the groups

John - be honest here - no real disrespect (well, maybe a bit)
intended - do
you not have better things to do with your time than seek out those who
allegedly violate an intangible and reprimand them? From your more than
ample self-trumpeting, your mind is a veritable cornucopia of useful and
profitable circuits; should you not be looking to cultivate that very
fertile field for the good of mankind, or at least to make a living?
---
Lurk around sci.electronics.* and alt.binaries.schematics.electronic
for a while and you might find that I do pro bono work which, I
hope, is helping mankind.
Making a living I'm not so concerned with, since my needs are
relatively simple and there's enough money coming in to take care of
them.
---

Post by John Fields
and use them to
try to find happy homes for your widgets, but the fact remains that
the only time you show up is when you want to sell something.

That is because I dont have any need to pick the brains of those on the
groups (not that I am learned in their fields, simply that I dont practice
in them; absolutely no disrespect intended to the very many on those groups
with skills and education that no doubt would put mine to shame).
I show up to sell because there are people there who buy; even the most
erudite of circuit designers needs a pair of dikes now and then.
---
If only to watch... But, nicely put.
---

Post by John Fields
You don't participate in any discussions, you don't present any
technical issues, and you don't ever show up unless you've got some
stuff you want to get rid of.
Not SPAM? I don't think so.

Well John thats whats great about America - we can all have and express our
opinions freely, as wrong as I think yours is.
---
Well, of course you have to say that, and wave the flag a little to
make it all seem real, as seen from your side.
If you didn't, you'd have to admit that you're placing ads where ads
aren't welcome, and concede defeat. No?
--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

[Art M - Artfromny]

Post by John Fields
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:43:59 GMT, "Art M - Artfromny"

Post by John Fields
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:36:31 GMT, "Art M - Artfromny"
From your more

than
ample self-trumpeting, your mind is a veritable cornucopia of useful and
profitable circuits; should you not be looking to cultivate that very
fertile field for the good of mankind, or at least to make a living?
---
Lurk around sci.electronics.* and alt.binaries.schematics.electronic
for a while and you might find that I do pro bono work which, I
hope, is helping mankind.

John you must have realized by now that lurking is just not my style ;)

even the

Post by John Fields
most
erudite of circuit designers needs a pair of dikes now and then.
---
If only to watch... But, nicely put.

Ah John so you are a regular guy after all :) but the viewable kind are
usually called dykes with a 'y'

Art

[Steve Muccione]

Awww Art, leave the poor guy alone... watching is probably all he gets to
do... Professional Circuit Designers don't make enough to pay for the good
stuff...

Post by Art M - Artfromny

Post by John Fields
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:43:59 GMT, "Art M - Artfromny"

Post by John Fields
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:36:31 GMT, "Art M - Artfromny"
From your more

than
ample self-trumpeting, your mind is a veritable cornucopia of useful and
profitable circuits; should you not be looking to cultivate that very
fertile field for the good of mankind, or at least to make a living?
---
Lurk around sci.electronics.* and alt.binaries.schematics.electronic
for a while and you might find that I do pro bono work which, I
hope, is helping mankind.

John you must have realized by now that lurking is just not my style ;)
even the

Post by John Fields
most
erudite of circuit designers needs a pair of dikes now and then.
---
If only to watch... But, nicely put.

Ah John so you are a regular guy after all :) but the viewable kind are
usually called dykes with a 'y'
Art

[James T. White]

Post by Steve Muccione
Awww Art, leave the poor guy alone... watching is probably all he
gets to do... Professional Circuit Designers don't make enough to pay
for the good stuff...

Circuit designers wouldn't use the Fluke 9010 anyway. Just poor techs
that have to repair that older stuff.

[Steve Muccione]

Just poor techs that have to repair that older stuff.

No, no, no... sigh....

It's just poor techs with a basement full of arcade machines...

Either that or people who are designing using the appropriate parts for
their clients needs/costs instead of using, say, a p4 to control a relay.

Post by Steve Muccione
Awww Art, leave the poor guy alone... watching is probably all he
gets to do... Professional Circuit Designers don't make enough to pay
for the good stuff...

Circuit designers wouldn't use the Fluke 9010 anyway. Just poor techs
that have to repair that older stuff.
--
James T. White

[Art M - Artfromny]

Post by Steve Muccione
Awww Art, leave the poor guy alone... watching is probably all he gets to
do... Professional Circuit Designers don't make enough to pay for the good
stuff...

He started :)

A

[John Fields]

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 04:09:06 GMT, "Art M - Artfromny"

Post by Art M - Artfromny

Post by Steve Muccione
Awww Art, leave the poor guy alone... watching is probably all he gets to
do... Professional Circuit Designers don't make enough to pay for the good
stuff...

He started :)

---
Wrong.

You posted your crap first, _then_ you got a reply.

[John Fields]

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:18:00 -0500, "Steve Muccione"

Post by Steve Muccione
Awww Art, leave the poor guy alone... watching is probably all he gets to
do... Professional Circuit Designers don't make enough to pay for the good
stuff...

---
LOL, Muccione, so _you_ have to pay???

[Steve Muccione]

No, I haven't been a Professional Circuit Designer for a long time...
doesn't pay enough...

besides, I have 6 kids...

Post by John Fields
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:18:00 -0500, "Steve Muccione"

Post by Steve Muccione
Awww Art, leave the poor guy alone... watching is probably all he gets to
do... Professional Circuit Designers don't make enough to pay for the good
stuff...

---
LOL, Muccione, so _you_ have to pay???
--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

[John Fields]

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:04:57 -0500, "Steve Muccione"

Post by Steve Muccione
No, I haven't been a Professional Circuit Designer for a long time...
doesn't pay enough...

---
Sorry about that.
---

Post by Steve Muccione
besides, I have 6 kids...

---
Well, I've got five, but they've all left home and have lives and
kids of their own.