Loud horn to scare squirrels

[Timbo]

I've had it! I've put up all kinds of physical obstacles to prevent
squirrels from getting to the bird feeder outside my study window, but the
gymnastic squirrels keep outsmarting me and mastering the obstacles.

I'd like to be able to push a button on my study desk when I see a squirrel
climbing up to the feeder, and have an ear-splitting horn next to the feeder
blast him.

I've googled (actually froogled) horns, but don't know what I'm seeing. I
would be grately deepful if you could recommend a relatively inexpensive
setup.

Thanks
Tim Carr

[unknown]

Post by Timbo
I've had it! I've put up all kinds of physical obstacles to prevent
squirrels from getting to the bird feeder outside my study window, but the
gymnastic squirrels keep outsmarting me and mastering the obstacles.
I'd like to be able to push a button on my study desk when I see a squirrel
climbing up to the feeder, and have an ear-splitting horn next to the feeder
blast him.
I've googled (actually froogled) horns, but don't know what I'm seeing. I
would be grately deepful if you could recommend a relatively inexpensive
setup.
Thanks
Tim Carr

Sit with your shotgun sticking out the study window, BLAMmmmmmmm
Good Entertainment eh?

Regards
Daveb

[Roger Hamlett]

Post by Timbo
I've had it! I've put up all kinds of physical obstacles to prevent
squirrels from getting to the bird feeder outside my study window, but
the gymnastic squirrels keep outsmarting me and mastering the obstacles.
I'd like to be able to push a button on my study desk when I see a
squirrel climbing up to the feeder, and have an ear-splitting horn next
to the feeder blast him.
I've googled (actually froogled) horns, but don't know what I'm seeing.
I would be grately deepful if you could recommend a relatively
inexpensive setup.
Thanks
Tim Carr

Remember that other things than the squirrel will hear this, including
humans (you...). Unless you are very isolated, you could be walking
towards annoying your neighbours a lot. At the sort of volumes you need to
really make squirrels go, you risk damaging your own hearing. Consider
going for sound at frequencies above normal hearing. Look at:
http://www.amazing1.com/ultra.htm
Look at the PPF4/PPF40....
The volume involved here is enough that it _will_ cause discomfort to
humans in the area, but beyond a few tens of feet, this effect disappears,
removing the annoyance to your neighbours, but the volume involved up
close is so high, that it should make everything disappear. Make sure it
is aimed away from you though.

Best Wishes

[Beachcomber]

On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:00:42 GMT, "Roger Hamlett"

Post by Timbo
I've had it! I've put up all kinds of physical obstacles to prevent
squirrels from getting to the bird feeder outside my study window, but
the gymnastic squirrels keep outsmarting me and mastering the obstacles.
I'd like to be able to push a button on my study desk when I see a
squirrel climbing up to the feeder, and have an ear-splitting horn next
to the feeder blast him.
I've googled (actually froogled) horns, but don't know what I'm seeing.
I would be grately deepful if you could recommend a relatively
inexpensive setup.

Along the lines of your original idea, go to Google or eBay and type
in "Personal Siren". You should find an amazing number of personal
protector alarms with 115 dB electronic sirens for cheap prices.

Next you have to take this apart and run two small wires (like speaker
cable) from indoors to outdoors. I would put the siren part outdoors
and mount the battery and a pushbutton switch (you need a pushbutton
switch - like a doorbell button) indoors. The battery holder you can
get from Radio Shack. You might need to do a bit of soldering so
either learn it yourself or get a friend to help.

Beachcomber

[Art]

Check the local ordinance regarding nuisance noise generation before getting
too involved. May be further ahead asking the local humane society branch
what they recommend regarding your pests for proper dispersement of their
antics.

Post by Beachcomber
On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:00:42 GMT, "Roger Hamlett"

Post by Timbo
I've had it! I've put up all kinds of physical obstacles to prevent
squirrels from getting to the bird feeder outside my study window, but
the gymnastic squirrels keep outsmarting me and mastering the obstacles.
I'd like to be able to push a button on my study desk when I see a
squirrel climbing up to the feeder, and have an ear-splitting horn next
to the feeder blast him.
I've googled (actually froogled) horns, but don't know what I'm seeing.
I would be grately deepful if you could recommend a relatively
inexpensive setup.

Along the lines of your original idea, go to Google or eBay and type
in "Personal Siren". You should find an amazing number of personal
protector alarms with 115 dB electronic sirens for cheap prices.
Next you have to take this apart and run two small wires (like speaker
cable) from indoors to outdoors. I would put the siren part outdoors
and mount the battery and a pushbutton switch (you need a pushbutton
switch - like a doorbell button) indoors. The battery holder you can
get from Radio Shack. You might need to do a bit of soldering so
either learn it yourself or get a friend to help.
Beachcomber

[jim dorey]

Post by Art
Check the local ordinance regarding nuisance noise generation before getting
too involved. May be further ahead asking the local humane society branch
what they recommend regarding your pests for proper dispersement of their
antics.

maybe try loud ultrasonics, even too high a frequency for dogs to hear.
some information i've read tends to suggest it'll make the skin feel as if
it's crawling, nervousness follows, then jumpiness, then an immediate urge
to either flee the area or kill the thing the sound is coming from. might
be interesting to see the effect on a squirrel, and any noughbours kids
that decide to disturb your tranquiliy, i don't think it'd hurt them, and
it for certain won't damage their hearing.

[Don Klipstein]

Post by jim dorey

Post by Art
Check the local ordinance regarding nuisance noise generation before getting
too involved. May be further ahead asking the local humane society branch
what they recommend regarding your pests for proper dispersement of their
antics.

maybe try loud ultrasonics, even too high a frequency for dogs to hear.
some information i've read tends to suggest it'll make the skin feel as if
it's crawling, nervousness follows, then jumpiness, then an immediate urge
to either flee the area or kill the thing the sound is coming from. might
be interesting to see the effect on a squirrel, and any noughbours kids
that decide to disturb your tranquiliy, i don't think it'd hurt them, and
it for certain won't damage their hearing.

I have heard that intense ultrasound can damage hearing. Also, intense
ultrasound can cause eye damage - at ultrasonic frequencies the lens is
rather rigid and able to resonate and brittle - beware of overtone
resonance modes should you avoid the main one that I have heard is not
much above 20 KHz typically. I have seen on TV how a probe vibrating at
an ultrasonic frequency is used to shatter the lens to make it easier to
remove in cataract surgery. I don't know how much SPL is actually
dangerous here, but I have heard of ultrasonic dog repellers possibly
being dangerous to eyes at close range. Hazard is probably only at very
close range within the "beam" of ultrasound - mount horns out of reach and
you are *probably* OK.

Other possible ill effects of ultrasonic pest repellers: You could
repel bats and possibly other enemies of mosquitoes.

- Don Klipstein (***@misty.com)

[default]

Post by Timbo
I've had it! I've put up all kinds of physical obstacles to prevent
squirrels from getting to the bird feeder outside my study window, but the
gymnastic squirrels keep outsmarting me and mastering the obstacles.
I'd like to be able to push a button on my study desk when I see a squirrel
climbing up to the feeder, and have an ear-splitting horn next to the feeder
blast him.
I've googled (actually froogled) horns, but don't know what I'm seeing. I
would be grately deepful if you could recommend a relatively inexpensive
setup.
Thanks
Tim Carr

There are schematics on the web for electric fence chargers. I have
squirrels also but found some squirrel proof feeders that work.

Something that worked well for me - one feeder is on a pole and well
away from trees etc.. The squirrels had to run up the 4X4 wood post
to get to the feeder. I took the feeder off and slipped a 6 foot
section of 4-5" plastic drain pipe over it. They can't climb the pole
if they can't get their claws into it. Worked well, inexpensive,
quiet, and safe.

"Ear Splitting" my guess is that's more hassle than its worth. You
may give up before they do. I'd consider an ultrasonic horn first.

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[Blueyonder]

Personally, my view is anyone that feeds wild birds that, in return, shit on
their washing deserves to be plagued by squirrels.

How often do squirrels ever shit on anyones washing ?.

CG...

Post by Timbo
I've had it! I've put up all kinds of physical obstacles to prevent
squirrels from getting to the bird feeder outside my study window, but the
gymnastic squirrels keep outsmarting me and mastering the obstacles.
I'd like to be able to push a button on my study desk when I see a squirrel
climbing up to the feeder, and have an ear-splitting horn next to the feeder
blast him.
I've googled (actually froogled) horns, but don't know what I'm seeing. I
would be grately deepful if you could recommend a relatively inexpensive
setup.
Thanks
Tim Carr

[Anthony Fremont]

Post by Blueyonder
Personally, my view is anyone that feeds wild birds that, in return, shit on
their washing deserves to be plagued by squirrels.
How often do squirrels ever shit on anyones washing ?.

They are too busy destroying peoples homes to take time out to dirty
some laundry. They have eaten numerous holes in my soffet as well as a
couple of holes directly thru the siding. Of course it wouldn't be
quite so picturesque without the nearly perfectly round holes gnawed
thru the wooden end caps of the overhangs (from the inside out, of
course). And what self respecting squirrel would build a nest without
the complete insulation cover for a 25' piece of HVAC flexible ducting.
They are simply very smart rats with furry tails and nothing more and
will systematically destroy your home if given half a chance. They are
also carnivorous and eat baby birds. You are absolutely right,
squirrels are indeed a plague. Oh yeah, they really enjoyed devouring
my A/C overflow pipe too.

[Michael A. Terrell]

Post by Blueyonder

Post by Blueyonder
Personally, my view is anyone that feeds wild birds that, in return,

shit on

Post by Blueyonder
their washing deserves to be plagued by squirrels.
How often do squirrels ever shit on anyones washing ?.

They are too busy destroying peoples homes to take time out to dirty
some laundry. They have eaten numerous holes in my soffet as well as a
couple of holes directly thru the siding. Of course it wouldn't be
quite so picturesque without the nearly perfectly round holes gnawed
thru the wooden end caps of the overhangs (from the inside out, of
course). And what self respecting squirrel would build a nest without
the complete insulation cover for a 25' piece of HVAC flexible ducting.
They are simply very smart rats with furry tails and nothing more and
will systematically destroy your home if given half a chance. They are
also carnivorous and eat baby birds. You are absolutely right,
squirrels are indeed a plague. Oh yeah, they really enjoyed devouring
my A/C overflow pipe too.

They also chew overhead CATV and telephone cables. WHen I worked for
United Video in Cincinnati, ohio the field techs carried "Sniffers" in
their trucks to detect RF leaks. A lot of the leaks were from holes
chewed through the outer aluminum conductor of the .750" and .500 inch
trunk and feeder cables. We had service outages where they had chewed
through about 90% of the a outer aluminum conductor and the remainder
fractured from thermal expansion which caused either 120 Hz modulated
hum bars, intermittent signal, or a complete outage. the outer jacket
was supposed to be rodent proof, but it didn't work very well.

[Anthony Fremont]

Post by Michael A. Terrell
They also chew overhead CATV and telephone cables. WHen I worked for
United Video in Cincinnati, ohio the field techs carried "Sniffers" in
their trucks to detect RF leaks. A lot of the leaks were from holes
chewed through the outer aluminum conductor of the .750" and .500 inch
trunk and feeder cables. We had service outages where they had chewed
through about 90% of the a outer aluminum conductor and the remainder
fractured from thermal expansion which caused either 120 Hz modulated
hum bars, intermittent signal, or a complete outage. the outer jacket
was supposed to be rodent proof, but it didn't work very well.

They're viscious, evil, filthy little rodents that eat live baby birds
for fun. I could do with a few less around here. I'm buying a fence
charge for the neighborhood dogs though. I think that will teach them
to not piss on my front flowerbeds.

Post by Michael A. Terrell
--
The link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project deleted after
threats were telephoned to my church.

Really? I'd be curious as to what kind of threats were made. What kind
of person has it in for disabled vets? At any rate, I don't think you
should let that stop you. You have rights too.

[Michael A. Terrell]

Post by Anthony Fremont

Post by Michael A. Terrell
--
The link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project deleted after
threats were telephoned to my church.

Really? I'd be curious as to what kind of threats were made. What kind
of person has it in for disabled vets? At any rate, I don't think you
should let that stop you. You have rights too.

Actually, it was intended to cause me trouble. Someone who has been
stalking me online for several years made the call, and the local
Sheriff was informed. A report is on file, and they will follow up on
it after the hurricane passes, and they finish their drill following the
London bombings.

The project is still alive, but I removed the link from my Sig file
and message headers. I collect, repair and give used computers to
disabled veterans who can't afford to buy a system of their own. My goal
is 100 systems from July 1, 2005 to July 1, 2006. That is about two
systems a week. So far, people have been giving enough equipment that
I'll meet my goal as long as my health holds up.

[Fred Abse]

Post by Michael A. Terrell
and they will follow up on
it after the hurricane passes,

Gettin' kinda laid back about things, huh, Mike?

[Michael A. Terrell]

Post by Fred Abse

Post by Michael A. Terrell
and they will follow up on
it after the hurricane passes,

Gettin' kinda laid back about things, huh, Mike?

Well, there's not much you can do when normal services are curtailed,
till its over. It doesn't matter, they will take care of him in due
time.

[Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"]

Post by Michael A. Terrell

Post by Anthony Fremont

Post by Michael A. Terrell
--
The link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project deleted after
threats were telephoned to my church.

Really? I'd be curious as to what kind of threats were made. What kind
of person has it in for disabled vets? At any rate, I don't think you
should let that stop you. You have rights too.

Actually, it was intended to cause me trouble. Someone who has been
stalking me online for several years made the call, and the local
Sheriff was informed. A report is on file, and they will follow up on
it after the hurricane passes, and they finish their drill following the
London bombings.

What's their beef? It seems to me that if they file a fictitious report
with the sheriff, they would be subject to prosecution. Calif has laws
against those who do SLAPPs. http://www.casp.net/intro.html#what%20are

Post by Michael A. Terrell
The project is still alive, but I removed the link from my Sig file
and message headers. I collect, repair and give used computers to
disabled veterans who can't afford to buy a system of their own. My goal
is 100 systems from July 1, 2005 to July 1, 2006. That is about two
systems a week. So far, people have been giving enough equipment that
I'll meet my goal as long as my health holds up.
--
Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted
after threats were telephoned to my church.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

[Peter]

If you want to keep squirrels away check out www.shuroo.com - see stray
ban product.

Peter

Post by Blueyonder

Post by Blueyonder
Personally, my view is anyone that feeds wild birds that, in return,

shit on

Post by Blueyonder
their washing deserves to be plagued by squirrels.
How often do squirrels ever shit on anyones washing ?.

They are too busy destroying peoples homes to take time out to dirty
some laundry. They have eaten numerous holes in my soffet as well as a
couple of holes directly thru the siding. Of course it wouldn't be
quite so picturesque without the nearly perfectly round holes gnawed
thru the wooden end caps of the overhangs (from the inside out, of
course). And what self respecting squirrel would build a nest without
the complete insulation cover for a 25' piece of HVAC flexible ducting.
They are simply very smart rats with furry tails and nothing more and
will systematically destroy your home if given half a chance. They are
also carnivorous and eat baby birds. You are absolutely right,
squirrels are indeed a plague. Oh yeah, they really enjoyed devouring
my A/C overflow pipe too.

[Warren Weber]

Post by Timbo
I've had it! I've put up all kinds of physical obstacles to prevent
squirrels from getting to the bird feeder outside my study window, but the
gymnastic squirrels keep outsmarting me and mastering the obstacles.
I'd like to be able to push a button on my study desk when I see a
squirrel climbing up to the feeder, and have an ear-splitting horn next to
the feeder blast him.
I've googled (actually froogled) horns, but don't know what I'm seeing. I
would be grately deepful if you could recommend a relatively inexpensive
setup.
Thanks
Tim Carr

Fence charger, works any time and you don't need to watch it.

[Art]

Also works great for neighbourhood kids, not lethal but teaches respect for
electric shocks!!

Post by Warren Weber

Post by Timbo
I've had it! I've put up all kinds of physical obstacles to prevent
squirrels from getting to the bird feeder outside my study window, but
the gymnastic squirrels keep outsmarting me and mastering the obstacles.
I'd like to be able to push a button on my study desk when I see a
squirrel climbing up to the feeder, and have an ear-splitting horn next
to the feeder blast him.
I've googled (actually froogled) horns, but don't know what I'm seeing.
I would be grately deepful if you could recommend a relatively
inexpensive setup.
Thanks
Tim Carr

Fence charger, works any time and you don't need to watch it.

[jim dorey]

Post by Warren Weber
Fence charger, works any time and you don't need to watch it.

perfect for the strawberry bushes too, just use household power and heavy
wires, and there will be no squirrels or children, after first experience,
that will bother your crop.

[Rick Y]

Post by Timbo
I've had it! I've put up all kinds of physical obstacles to prevent
squirrels from getting to the bird feeder outside my study window, but the
gymnastic squirrels keep outsmarting me and mastering the obstacles.
I'd like to be able to push a button on my study desk when I see a squirrel
climbing up to the feeder, and have an ear-splitting horn next to the feeder
blast him.
I've googled (actually froogled) horns, but don't know what I'm seeing. I
would be grately deepful if you could recommend a relatively inexpensive
setup.
Thanks
Tim Carr

Take down your bird feeder and buy some peanuts.

Rick

[Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"]

Post by Timbo

Post by Timbo
I've had it! I've put up all kinds of physical obstacles to prevent
squirrels from getting to the bird feeder outside my study window, but the
gymnastic squirrels keep outsmarting me and mastering the obstacles.
I'd like to be able to push a button on my study desk when I see a

squirrel

Post by Timbo
climbing up to the feeder, and have an ear-splitting horn next to

the

Post by Timbo
feeder

Post by Timbo
blast him.
I've googled (actually froogled) horns, but don't know what I'm seeing. I
would be grately deepful if you could recommend a relatively

inexpensive

Post by Timbo

Post by Timbo
setup.
Thanks
Tim Carr

Take down your bird feeder and buy some peanuts.
Rick

So, what are you supposed to do with the peanuts?

I thought the most interesting idea was to sprinkle capsicum powder on
the bird food, since birds can't taste it. That was news to me.

Why do people post to sci.electronics? It has been replaced by
sci.electronics.misc for the better part of a decade. TANST!

[Rick Y]

Post by Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"

Post by Rick Y
Take down your bird feeder and buy some peanuts.
Rick

So, what are you supposed to do with the peanuts?

You feed them to the squirrels. I have a friend who has about 5 or six
squirrels taking peanuts out of his hand and one of them will even take a
peanut from his mouth. His neighbor shoots squirrels who get on the bird
feeder, so the two haven't spoken for months.

Rick

[Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"]

Post by Rick Y

Post by Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"

Post by Rick Y
Take down your bird feeder and buy some peanuts.
Rick

So, what are you supposed to do with the peanuts?

You feed them to the squirrels. I have a friend who has about 5 or six
squirrels taking peanuts out of his hand and one of them will even take a
peanut from his mouth. His neighbor shoots squirrels who get on the bird
feeder, so the two haven't spoken for months.
Rick

Oh, I see. Peace offering. I thought that maybe you were implying that
the peanuts were laced with rat poison or something like that. ;-)

[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

Get a recipe for squirrel stew.

[Jim Douglas]

What about the sound of a 12G shotgun blasting the shi& out of them! Of
course a recording that was triggered from some type of string that the
squirrel would trip!

Post by Timbo
I've had it! I've put up all kinds of physical obstacles to prevent
squirrels from getting to the bird feeder outside my study window, but the
gymnastic squirrels keep outsmarting me and mastering the obstacles.
I'd like to be able to push a button on my study desk when I see a squirrel
climbing up to the feeder, and have an ear-splitting horn next to the feeder
blast him.
I've googled (actually froogled) horns, but don't know what I'm seeing. I
would be grately deepful if you could recommend a relatively inexpensive
setup.
Thanks
Tim Carr

[quietguy]

Put grease on the feeder pole?

David

Post by Timbo
I've had it! I've put up all kinds of physical obstacles to prevent
squirrels from getting to the bird feeder outside my study window, but the
gymnastic squirrels keep outsmarting me and mastering the obstacles.
I'd like to be able to push a button on my study desk when I see a squirrel
climbing up to the feeder, and have an ear-splitting horn next to the feeder
blast him.
I've googled (actually froogled) horns, but don't know what I'm seeing. I
would be grately deepful if you could recommend a relatively inexpensive
setup.
Thanks
Tim Carr

[Michael A. Terrell]

Post by quietguy
Put grease on the feeder pole?
David

Install a second pole a few inches away and use them for a "Jacobs
Ladder". ;-)

[Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"]

Post by Michael A. Terrell

Post by quietguy
Put grease on the feeder pole?
David

Install a second pole a few inches away and use them for a "Jacobs
Ladder". ;-)

Hey, did'ya see the news today? That's exactly what happened to four
boy scout leaders when their tent pole went askew and touched the
overhead power lines. They got electrocuted and some others injured.
Helluva way to start off a jamboree.

Post by Michael A. Terrell
--
???
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

[Michael A. Terrell]

Post by Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"
Hey, did'ya see the news today? That's exactly what happened to four
boy scout leaders when their tent pole went askew and touched the
overhead power lines. They got electrocuted and some others injured.
Helluva way to start off a jamboree.

I heard it on the news. The last jamboree I went to was back in the
late '60s a scout was trying to cook a minute steak and dumped the
grease into the fire. The kid was severely burned over most of his body
for that thoughtless act. He was crying "Why me" over and over as they
carried him away on the stretcher.

[Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"]

Post by Michael A. Terrell

Post by Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"
Hey, did'ya see the news today? That's exactly what happened to four
boy scout leaders when their tent pole went askew and touched the
overhead power lines. They got electrocuted and some others

injured.

Post by Michael A. Terrell

Post by Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"
Helluva way to start off a jamboree.

I heard it on the news. The last jamboree I went to was back in the
late '60s a scout was trying to cook a minute steak and dumped the
grease into the fire. The kid was severely burned over most of his body
for that thoughtless act. He was crying "Why me" over and over as they
carried him away on the stretcher.

Oof! Here's a better use for used cooking oil.
http://www.vegpoweredsystems.com/

Post by Michael A. Terrell
--
Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted
after threats were telephoned to my church.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

[G.Vasilev]

Post by Michael A. Terrell
The kid was severely burned over most of his body
for that thoughtless act. He was crying "Why me" over and over as they
carried him away on the stretcher.
--
Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted
after threats were telephoned to my church.

What a pity! My heart is crying.

[Fred Abse]

Post by G.Vasilev

Post by Michael A. Terrell
The kid was severely burned over most of his body
for that thoughtless act. He was crying "Why me" over and over as they
carried him away on the stretcher.
--
Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted
after threats were telephoned to my church.

What a pity! My heart is crying.

PLONK!