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New Factory Packed Cyrix Type 486 CPU's Cheap!
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Rudy Hartmann
2005-05-07 14:25:19 UTC
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New Factory Packed Cyrix Type 486 CPU's Cheap!

I have 20,000 pieces of some brand new Cyrix CX486SLC CPU's for sale. These
are actually branded TI, because Cyrix never made their own CPU's. They had
Texas Instruments, ST Micro and IBM actually manufactured the chips. These
are marked Texas Instruments TX486SLC/E-25. These are the same part as the
Cyrix CX486SLC-25 and some other CPU's listed below. Cyrix actually never
even made chips. They just designed them and had other companies foundry
them for them. Via Technologies has since bought the entire comapny. You
might find some around still, but they're all used, pulled from old boards
or in bad shape! These are actually new!

Here are some CPU's these will replace:

IBM -- 486SLC-25
ST Micro -- ST486SLC/E-25
Cyrix -- CX486SLC25
Via Technologies -- CX486SLC-25

Technically they're an enhanced Intel type 386SX chip. They have the same
pin-outs as an Intel NG80386SX. In a way, these are a cross between a 386SX
and a 486SX CPU. Cyrix just added some of the 486 instructions and 16K
internal cache ram neither of which was ever in the 386SX. It's a much
higher performance part than the 386SX. Many industrial applications still
use these economic CPU's, but they don't make them anymore.

If you are interested in buying them in volume, see my page on them at:
http://www.rocktechnology.com/Sale/TX486SLC.htm

I have an auction for small quantities on Ebay. The bid is for one factory
taped and reeled lot of 300 pieces. Bids start at 25¢ per chip, or $75.00
for the lot.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7513924344
John Larkin
2005-05-07 15:13:09 UTC
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On Sat, 07 May 2005 14:25:19 GMT, "Rudy Hartmann"
Post by Rudy Hartmann
New Factory Packed Cyrix Type 486 CPU's Cheap!
I have 20,000 pieces of some brand new Cyrix CX486SLC CPU's for sale. These
are actually branded TI, because Cyrix never made their own CPU's. They had
Texas Instruments, ST Micro and IBM actually manufactured the chips. These
are marked Texas Instruments TX486SLC/E-25. These are the same part as the
Cyrix CX486SLC-25 and some other CPU's listed below. Cyrix actually never
even made chips. They just designed them and had other companies foundry
them for them. Via Technologies has since bought the entire comapny. You
might find some around still, but they're all used, pulled from old boards
or in bad shape! These are actually new!
IBM -- 486SLC-25
ST Micro -- ST486SLC/E-25
Cyrix -- CX486SLC25
Via Technologies -- CX486SLC-25
Technically they're an enhanced Intel type 386SX chip. They have the same
pin-outs as an Intel NG80386SX. In a way, these are a cross between a 386SX
and a 486SX CPU. Cyrix just added some of the 486 instructions and 16K
internal cache ram neither of which was ever in the 386SX. It's a much
higher performance part than the 386SX. Many industrial applications still
use these economic CPU's, but they don't make them anymore.
http://www.rocktechnology.com/Sale/TX486SLC.htm
I have an auction for small quantities on Ebay. The bid is for one factory
taped and reeled lot of 300 pieces. Bids start at 25¢ per chip, or $75.00
for the lot.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7513924344
The Intel ceramic-packaged 486 chips make excellent X-acto knife
sharpeners. Don't know about the Cyrix parts.

John
Genome
2005-05-07 15:59:10 UTC
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Post by John Larkin
On Sat, 07 May 2005 14:25:19 GMT, "Rudy Hartmann"
Post by Rudy Hartmann
New Factory Packed Cyrix Type 486 CPU's Cheap!
I have 20,000 pieces of some brand new Cyrix CX486SLC CPU's for sale. These
are actually branded TI, because Cyrix never made their own CPU's. They had
Texas Instruments, ST Micro and IBM actually manufactured the chips. These
are marked Texas Instruments TX486SLC/E-25. These are the same part as the
Cyrix CX486SLC-25 and some other CPU's listed below. Cyrix actually never
even made chips. They just designed them and had other companies foundry
them for them. Via Technologies has since bought the entire comapny. You
might find some around still, but they're all used, pulled from old boards
or in bad shape! These are actually new!
IBM -- 486SLC-25
ST Micro -- ST486SLC/E-25
Cyrix -- CX486SLC25
Via Technologies -- CX486SLC-25
Technically they're an enhanced Intel type 386SX chip. They have the same
pin-outs as an Intel NG80386SX. In a way, these are a cross between a 386SX
and a 486SX CPU. Cyrix just added some of the 486 instructions and 16K
internal cache ram neither of which was ever in the 386SX. It's a much
higher performance part than the 386SX. Many industrial applications still
use these economic CPU's, but they don't make them anymore.
http://www.rocktechnology.com/Sale/TX486SLC.htm
I have an auction for small quantities on Ebay. The bid is for one factory
taped and reeled lot of 300 pieces. Bids start at 25¢ per chip, or $75.00
for the lot.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7513924344
The Intel ceramic-packaged 486 chips make excellent X-acto knife
sharpeners. Don't know about the Cyrix parts.
John
Are they the slate gre[a]y/blue[don't know how to spell blue in American]
sort of purple ones? Have they got see through bottoms?

Being unoriginal I've often thought about the jewellery aspect of these sort
of things. 20C a pop, bond a mount to the corner to make a dangly thing,
sell em for $10.

Ahhhhh shit, I just had a look at what he's selling.

Ugly fucking things, very un-aesthetic.


DNA
Rich Grise
2005-05-07 16:42:27 UTC
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Post by Genome
Post by John Larkin
On Sat, 07 May 2005 14:25:19 GMT, "Rudy Hartmann"
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Post by Genome
Post by John Larkin
Post by Rudy Hartmann
taped and reeled lot of 300 pieces. Bids start at 25¢ per chip, or
$75.00 for the lot.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7513924344
The Intel ceramic-packaged 486 chips make excellent X-acto knife
sharpeners. Don't know about the Cyrix parts.
Are they the slate gre[a]y/blue[don't know how to spell blue in
American] sort of purple ones? Have they got see through bottoms?
Being unoriginal I've often thought about the jewellery aspect of these
sort of things. 20C a pop, bond a mount to the corner to make a dangly
thing, sell em for $10.
Ahhhhh shit, I just had a look at what he's selling.
Ugly fucking things, very un-aesthetic.
It seems we've crossed the magic threshold: Compute power has become so
cheap that you now have to pay to have somebody haul them away.

Cheers!
Rich
Rich Grise
2005-05-07 16:44:07 UTC
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Post by Genome
Being unoriginal I've often thought about the jewellery aspect of these
sort of things. 20C a pop, bond a mount to the corner to make a dangly
thing, sell em for $10.
I made a tie pin out of an 8751 once. Now I work in a machine shop, and
you should see some of the chips they make! I'll try to bother to get a
pic to post. But you could sell inconel chip earrings in Hollywood for
probably an insane amount of money.

Cheers!
Rich
Rich Grise
2005-05-07 16:57:46 UTC
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Post by Rich Grise
Post by Genome
Being unoriginal I've often thought about the jewellery aspect of these
sort of things. 20C a pop, bond a mount to the corner to make a dangly
thing, sell em for $10.
I made a tie pin out of an 8751 once. Now I work in a machine shop, and
you should see some of the chips they make! I'll try to bother to get a
pic to post. But you could sell inconel chip earrings in Hollywood for
probably an insane amount of money.
I've posted a pic in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic of some machine
tool chips, subject: "OT:Metal Chips for Jewelry". I don't know if it's
necessary to say, I've given up on vacuuming my rug.

Cheers!
Rich
Genome
2005-05-07 18:03:10 UTC
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Post by Rich Grise
Post by Rich Grise
Post by Genome
Being unoriginal I've often thought about the jewellery aspect of these
sort of things. 20C a pop, bond a mount to the corner to make a dangly
thing, sell em for $10.
I made a tie pin out of an 8751 once. Now I work in a machine shop, and
you should see some of the chips they make! I'll try to bother to get a
pic to post. But you could sell inconel chip earrings in Hollywood for
probably an insane amount of money.
I've posted a pic in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic of some machine
tool chips, subject: "OT:Metal Chips for Jewelry". I don't know if it's
necessary to say, I've given up on vacuuming my rug.
Cheers!
Rich
Well, try brushing your teeth instead.

I know it's unfair, but you posted your face.

DNA
Rich Grise
2005-05-07 20:49:13 UTC
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Post by Genome
Post by Rich Grise
Post by Rich Grise
Post by Genome
Being unoriginal I've often thought about the jewellery aspect of these
sort of things. 20C a pop, bond a mount to the corner to make a dangly
thing, sell em for $10.
I made a tie pin out of an 8751 once. Now I work in a machine shop, and
you should see some of the chips they make! I'll try to bother to get a
pic to post. But you could sell inconel chip earrings in Hollywood for
probably an insane amount of money.
I've posted a pic in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic of some machine
tool chips, subject: "OT:Metal Chips for Jewelry". I don't know if it's
necessary to say, I've given up on vacuuming my rug.
Cheers!
Rich
Well, try brushing your teeth instead.
I know it's unfair, but you posted your face.
No, it's fair. Sigh. It doesn't matter how aggressively I brush them; I
was born with brown teeth.

Thanks,
Rich
Genome
2005-05-08 11:58:09 UTC
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Post by Rich Grise
Post by Genome
Well, try brushing your teeth instead.
I know it's unfair, but you posted your face.
No, it's fair. Sigh. It doesn't matter how aggressively I brush them; I
was born with brown teeth.
Thanks,
Rich
Well.. as long as your gob tastes nice for kissing I suppose it doesn't
matter.

What happened to the nice girlies?

DNA
Ban
2005-05-08 18:35:28 UTC
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Post by Genome
Post by Rich Grise
Post by Genome
Well, try brushing your teeth instead.
I know it's unfair, but you posted your face.
No, it's fair. Sigh. It doesn't matter how aggressively I brush
them; I was born with brown teeth.
Thanks,
Rich
Well.. as long as your gob tastes nice for kissing I suppose it
doesn't matter.
What happened to the nice girlies?
DNA
It needs courage to post a contemporary pic, yellow teeth included. And you
have of course pressed the right buttons, but then he was also showing off
with these girls. I forgot to save the pics and now they are gone on my
server, because of these megabyte computer pics. Too funny.
--
ciao Ban
Bordighera, Italy
Rich Grise
2005-05-10 22:10:12 UTC
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Post by Ban
Post by Genome
Post by Rich Grise
Post by Genome
Well, try brushing your teeth instead.
I know it's unfair, but you posted your face.
No, it's fair. Sigh. It doesn't matter how aggressively I brush
them; I was born with brown teeth.
Well.. as long as your gob tastes nice for kissing I suppose it
doesn't matter.
What happened to the nice girlies?
It needs courage to post a contemporary pic, yellow teeth included. And you
have of course pressed the right buttons, but then he was also showing off
with these girls. I forgot to save the pics and now they are gone on my
server, because of these megabyte computer pics. Too funny.
OK, well, don't say you haven't been warned:

http://www.neodruid.org/images/Me+Gals1.jpg
Loading Image...

And I have some that were taken just last Saturday, but I'm really, really
hideous. I've asked my brothers and my internet friend in Nebraska if
they'd recommend that I actually publish them; I'll let you know. :-)

Cheers!
Rich
Pooh Bear
2005-05-11 07:59:17 UTC
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Post by Rich Grise
Post by Ban
Post by Genome
What happened to the nice girlies?
It needs courage to post a contemporary pic, yellow teeth included. And you
have of course pressed the right buttons, but then he was also showing off
with these girls. I forgot to save the pics and now they are gone on my
server, because of these megabyte computer pics. Too funny.
http://www.neodruid.org/images/Me+Gals1.jpg
http://www.neodruid.org/images/Me+Gals2.jpg
They look like a fun bunch to be with !

I must have missed them before.

I was momentarily concerned that your hair might be longer than mine but I don't
think there's much in it !


Graham
Rich Grise
2005-05-10 22:05:28 UTC
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Post by Genome
Post by Rich Grise
Post by Genome
Well, try brushing your teeth instead.
I know it's unfair, but you posted your face.
No, it's fair. Sigh. It doesn't matter how aggressively I brush them; I
was born with brown teeth.
Well.. as long as your gob tastes nice for kissing I suppose it doesn't
matter.
What happened to the nice girlies?
I dunno - that was ten or fifteen years ago. Most of them were actresses,
so they're probably married or hooking by now, but Gigi, who did street
performing as a fire-breather, burned her face almost off in a horrible
accident. I was sitting in church one morning and yet another young lady
who was friends with us all came in and told me that Gigi had had a
terrible accident and was in the hospital, but was expected to live.

About two or three years later, she showed up on the show "How'd They
Do That", which was a whole hour long show about reconstructive surgery.
By that time I had kind of moved on, and wasn't hanging out with the
same gang. Sigh.

Gigi's the one on my immediate right in this pic. It kind of looks like
I'm trying to see down her cleavage:
Loading Image...
The blond-haired lady to my immediate left, laughing, wearing a blue
shirt, whose name I misfortunately don't remember, told me about the
time she read for a part in Star Trek:The Next Generation. She was
trying out for a "Barbie Nude" (a flesh-colored full body suit) part
on Raisa. She said that she had met Johnathan Frakes, and, in her
words, "He's just a love."

Sigh. Those were the days.

Thanks,
Rich
Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"
2005-05-08 20:23:53 UTC
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[snip]
Post by Rich Grise
Post by Genome
Well, try brushing your teeth instead.
I know it's unfair, but you posted your face.
No, it's fair. Sigh. It doesn't matter how aggressively I brush them; I
was born with brown teeth.
Thanks,
Rich
Long ago I knew this girl who had 'less than white' teeth. Her mom took
an antibiotic when she was pregnant, and that caused her daughter to
have dull white teeth. Some of us older folk were born before
antibiotics became widely availabiel and their teeth are nice and white.
keith
2005-05-09 03:24:45 UTC
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On Sun, 08 May 2005 13:23:53 -0700, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark
Post by Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"
[snip]
Post by Rich Grise
Post by Genome
Well, try brushing your teeth instead.
I know it's unfair, but you posted your face.
No, it's fair. Sigh. It doesn't matter how aggressively I brush them;
I
Post by Rich Grise
was born with brown teeth.
Thanks,
Rich
Long ago I knew this girl who had 'less than white' teeth. Her mom took
an antibiotic when she was pregnant, and that caused her daughter to
have dull white teeth. Some of us older folk were born before
antibiotics became widely availabiel and their teeth are nice and white.
This is why tetracycline is not to be used by minors or pregnant women.
It does stain the bones and teeth. It seems that tetracycline is used for
many forms of dermatitis, which is a problem for both minors and those who
might become pregnant.
--
Keith
--
Keith
Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"
2005-05-09 04:31:03 UTC
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Post by keith
On Sun, 08 May 2005 13:23:53 -0700, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark
Post by Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"
[snip]
Post by Rich Grise
Post by Genome
Well, try brushing your teeth instead.
I know it's unfair, but you posted your face.
No, it's fair. Sigh. It doesn't matter how aggressively I brush them;
I
Post by Rich Grise
was born with brown teeth.
Thanks,
Rich
Long ago I knew this girl who had 'less than white' teeth. Her mom took
an antibiotic when she was pregnant, and that caused her daughter to
have dull white teeth. Some of us older folk were born before
antibiotics became widely availabiel and their teeth are nice and white.
This is why tetracycline is not to be used by minors or pregnant women.
It does stain the bones and teeth. It seems that tetracycline is used for
many forms of dermatitis, which is a problem for both minors and those who
might become pregnant.
Another thing that seems to have taken off lately is the tooth bleach
kits that you can put on for so many hours, or overnight(?) They must
have been recently approved by some gov't body, or ? Seems like every
dentist has a sign in the window that is trying to peddle this
procedure.
Post by keith
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Keith
--
Keith
Pooh Bear
2005-05-11 08:03:41 UTC
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Post by Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"
Another thing that seems to have taken off lately is the tooth bleach
kits that you can put on for so many hours, or overnight(?) They must
have been recently approved by some gov't body, or ? Seems like every
dentist has a sign in the window that is trying to peddle this
procedure.
Yup and they're not cheap either.

I gather that careful use of hydrogen peroxide works well btw. My dentist of
old ( a Doctor of Dentistry in fact ) actually recommended its use.

Graham
Ian Stirling
2005-05-09 13:48:44 UTC
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In sci.electronics.design "Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" <***@dslextreme.com> wrote:
<snip>
Post by Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"
Long ago I knew this girl who had 'less than white' teeth. Her mom took
an antibiotic when she was pregnant, and that caused her daughter to
have dull white teeth. Some of us older folk were born before
antibiotics became widely availabiel and their teeth are nice and white.
Err, how do you square this with the fact that the teeth one is born with
only last several years, until the adult set grows in?
Dave Platt
2005-05-09 17:48:01 UTC
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Post by Ian Stirling
Post by Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"
Long ago I knew this girl who had 'less than white' teeth. Her mom took
an antibiotic when she was pregnant, and that caused her daughter to
have dull white teeth. Some of us older folk were born before
antibiotics became widely availabiel and their teeth are nice and white.
Err, how do you square this with the fact that the teeth one is born with
only last several years, until the adult set grows in?
From what I see as the result of a quick Googling, it seems that
tetracycline staining of the teeth can occur as the result of the
mother's taking tetracycline during the latter half of pregnancy.

The permanent teeth are forming at that time (although they don't
erupt from the gums until after the deciduous teeth are lost).

Tetracycline seems to be contra-indicated for pregnant women,
breast-feeding women, and children under 12, for this reason.
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mc
2005-05-09 14:20:23 UTC
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Post by Ian Stirling
In sci.electronics.design "Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\""
<snip>
Post by Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"
Long ago I knew this girl who had 'less than white' teeth. Her mom took
an antibiotic when she was pregnant, and that caused her daughter to
have dull white teeth. Some of us older folk were born before
antibiotics became widely availabiel and their teeth are nice and white.
Err, how do you square this with the fact that the teeth one is born with
only last several years, until the adult set grows in?
The adult set is developing beneath the gums at the time.

Spehro Pefhany
2005-05-07 22:19:00 UTC
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On Sat, 07 May 2005 16:44:07 GMT, the renowned Rich Grise
Post by Rich Grise
Post by Genome
Being unoriginal I've often thought about the jewellery aspect of these
sort of things. 20C a pop, bond a mount to the corner to make a dangly
thing, sell em for $10.
I made a tie pin out of an 8751 once. Now I work in a machine shop, and
you should see some of the chips they make! I'll try to bother to get a
pic to post. But you could sell inconel chip earrings in Hollywood for
probably an insane amount of money.
Cheers!
Rich
There's a lot of folks in your neck of the woods what make jewellery
on CNC machines. Body jewellery kind of stuff- little barbells and so
on. They probably use stainless mostly, though some people have a
nasty nickel allergy.
Chris Gentry
2005-05-10 03:43:46 UTC
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Post by Spehro Pefhany
On Sat, 07 May 2005 16:44:07 GMT, the renowned Rich Grise
Post by Rich Grise
Post by Genome
Being unoriginal I've often thought about the jewellery aspect of these
sort of things. 20C a pop, bond a mount to the corner to make a dangly
thing, sell em for $10.
I made a tie pin out of an 8751 once. Now I work in a machine shop, and
you should see some of the chips they make! I'll try to bother to get a
pic to post. But you could sell inconel chip earrings in Hollywood for
probably an insane amount of money.
Cheers!
Rich
There's a lot of folks in your neck of the woods what make jewellery
on CNC machines. Body jewellery kind of stuff- little barbells and so
on. They probably use stainless mostly, though some people have a
nasty nickel allergy.
Yeah, I have a nasty nickel allergy. Anytime I put on any jewelry with any
nickel whatsoever in it, I break out in a terrible rash. Looks like
millions of tiny zits covering the affected area. Then later I can squeeze
puss out of the whole big whelp that it leaves. Really a bad thing. I've
heard from someone that has the same allergy, that their doctor told them
that it was caused by allowing certain cutting fluids to be on your skin for
too long. I used to work in a machine shop as well.
Rich Grise
2005-05-10 22:45:27 UTC
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Post by Chris Gentry
Post by Spehro Pefhany
On Sat, 07 May 2005 16:44:07 GMT, the renowned Rich Grise
Post by Rich Grise
Post by Genome
Being unoriginal I've often thought about the jewellery aspect of these
sort of things. 20C a pop, bond a mount to the corner to make a dangly
thing, sell em for $10.
I made a tie pin out of an 8751 once. Now I work in a machine shop, and
you should see some of the chips they make! I'll try to bother to get a
pic to post. But you could sell inconel chip earrings in Hollywood for
probably an insane amount of money.
There's a lot of folks in your neck of the woods what make jewellery
on CNC machines. Body jewellery kind of stuff- little barbells and so
on. They probably use stainless mostly, though some people have a
nasty nickel allergy.
Yeah, I have a nasty nickel allergy. Anytime I put on any jewelry with any
nickel whatsoever in it, I break out in a terrible rash. Looks like
millions of tiny zits covering the affected area. Then later I can squeeze
puss out of the whole big whelp that it leaves. Really a bad thing. I've
heard from someone that has the same allergy, that their doctor told them
that it was caused by allowing certain cutting fluids to be on your skin for
too long. I used to work in a machine shop as well.
I used to get a chemical burn on my thigh when I overfilled my Zippo
lighter and the naptha seeped out and soaked into my pants pocket. I
don't know what exactly finally happened to my Zippo, but I don't have
it any more.

Speaking of chips:
Loading Image... - that's a 6" pocket scale.
I gave up on vacuuming my rug almost a year ago. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
ryan wiehle
2005-05-07 17:19:30 UTC
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Post by Rudy Hartmann
New Factory Packed Cyrix Type 486 CPU's Cheap!
I have 20,000 pieces of some brand new Cyrix CX486SLC CPU's for sale.
These are actually branded TI, because Cyrix never made their own
CPU's. They had Texas Instruments, ST Micro and IBM actually
manufactured the chips. These are marked Texas Instruments
TX486SLC/E-25. These are the same part as the Cyrix CX486SLC-25 and
some other CPU's listed below. Cyrix actually never even made chips.
They just designed them and had other companies foundry them for
them. Via Technologies has since bought the entire comapny. You might
find some around still, but they're all used, pulled from old boards
or in bad shape! These are actually new!
IBM -- 486SLC-25
ST Micro -- ST486SLC/E-25
Cyrix -- CX486SLC25
Via Technologies -- CX486SLC-25
Technically they're an enhanced Intel type 386SX chip. They have the
same pin-outs as an Intel NG80386SX. In a way, these are a cross
between a 386SX and a 486SX CPU. Cyrix just added some of the 486
instructions and 16K internal cache ram neither of which was ever in
the 386SX. It's a much higher performance part than the 386SX. Many
industrial applications still use these economic CPU's, but they
don't make them anymore.
If you are interested in buying them in volume, see my page on them
at: http://www.rocktechnology.com/Sale/TX486SLC.htm
I have an auction for small quantities on Ebay. The bid is for one
factory taped and reeled lot of 300 pieces. Bids start at 25" per
chip, or $75.00 for the lot.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7513924344
hey, I have one of those. what were they?? upgrade 386 to 486
way back when......
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