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3 Phase detection failure needed.
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athenanews
2004-06-18 15:29:14 UTC
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Please can anybody suggest the best route for doing this. Ideally we would
like a simple flag to let us know if we lose any phases. The flag would need
to be in the form of a 5-12 volt DC signal out to control equipment.

Best regards Steve


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scada
2004-06-18 21:03:00 UTC
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Please can anybody suggest the best route for doing this. Ideally we would
like a simple flag to let us know if we lose any phases. The flag would need
to be in the form of a 5-12 volt DC signal out to control equipment.
Best regards Steve
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Two relays rated at the phase to phase voltage. Wire the coil of relay1
across phases A-B. Wire the coil of relay2 across phases B-C. Wire the NO
contacts of each relay in series with both relays, and DC power supply
(5-12V). Now you will loose the 5-12V upon phase loss.

Also the industry uses three phase detectors. I'm not in my office now, but
a google search should show vendors!

If you want to monitor phase current for equality look for a "46 Relay"
(phase imbalance), it allows one to adjust the phase differential trip
point.
scada
2004-06-18 21:32:20 UTC
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Post by athenanews
Please can anybody suggest the best route for doing this. Ideally we would
like a simple flag to let us know if we lose any phases. The flag would
need
Post by athenanews
to be in the form of a 5-12 volt DC signal out to control equipment.
Best regards Steve
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Two relays rated at the phase to phase voltage. Wire the coil of relay1
across phases A-B. Wire the coil of relay2 across phases B-C. Wire the NO
contacts of each relay in series with both relays, and DC power supply
(5-12V). Now you will loose the 5-12V upon phase loss.
Also the industry uses three phase detectors. I'm not in my office now, but
a google search should show vendors!
If you want to monitor phase current for equality look for a "46 Relay"
(phase imbalance), it allows one to adjust the phase differential trip
point.
In addition I should say, if the phase to phase voltage is to large for the
relay coil voltage, then a PT should be utilized. A PT (potential
transformer) is just a step-down transformer. It is a good idea to use in
any case because it offers isolation.
glen herrmannsfeldt
2007-10-22 05:10:26 UTC
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Post by athenanews
Please can anybody suggest the best route for doing this. Ideally we would
like a simple flag to let us know if we lose any phases. The flag would
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Post by scada
Two relays rated at the phase to phase voltage. Wire the coil of relay1
across phases A-B. Wire the coil of relay2 across phases B-C. Wire the NO
contacts of each relay in series with both relays, and DC power supply
(5-12V). Now you will loose the 5-12V upon phase loss.
You should check that the relays drop out with only two legs
active. There might still be enough to hold them in.

-- glen

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